thx for your feedback. Agree shoulda communicated this more clearly. I am sorry about this.

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hi @joelsegovia, you are correct hiding fees and cost is deceptive and unacceptable, but that's the small and excusable point, you're actually more correct about how this could be really positive, but i'm not seeing their interest to get the best from the situation but instead they just continue to push their unreasonable agenda

you look like an active curator, and you should be earning curation from you efforts and upvotes, how would you feel if I told you every single one of your upvote reward is permanently set to 0% earning, how would you feel?

that how steem-forever is currently working, it not just taking away 51.25% of the entire upvote from Curator and Author (the low payout price of 65% from the total Author 75% Reward gives 100%-0.65x75%=51.25% lost),

Additionally steem-forever also upvotes the steem-forever comment immidiately with the user account (Voting at 0-1min gives about 0% Curation reward), it seems all Bounty's Steem Forever is concern about is getting the 35% of the Author Rewards as profits

I have already address this with the business owner in the comment above, and they really need to fix this before letting they code run again....they can do this in a few hours if they have good script coders (of if they are using python code they can just copy from another developer who posted a code and solution just below)

As for ideas on how to earn from you 1K, You're probably better of:

1. selling your upvote via @smartmarket or @minnowbooster you will get 85% cash payment back and easily 10 - 30% curation depending on your luck and your position and how big the post that you voted on, it could sometimes be even higher if you got in early to a trending post

OR

1. you can make a little more if you want to experiment with steemauto fan follow and find popular poster who consistently earn >$30 to $100 and try to position yourself between 5-14mins (before 15mins) to avg get >90-120% ROI. Yes this can be done, especially for smaller accounts around the few K mark.

There are many other ways to earn that will beat voting club will likely always pair you wth equivalent small to medium account which reduces your curation earning, surely smaller on avg compared to the 2 ideas i shared with you

i agree with the investment you put in, with re-occuring service based biz (much alike subscriptions) it's slow to initially recoup even if it's breakeven goal to help enrich the ecosystem for our own and mutual benefit before business goals

i've funded a server for 8 months with little return to run bots and scripts to cut down community volunteer time, and that's just automation, we put in a witness to help reduce partial cost (not even cover cost) and we don't even get any witness votes consistently to move forward, we were around 96 and now we're well over >115 because none of the volunteers nor myself have time in the last 2 months to seek support or promote our 100% community benefit witness {to my knowledge there is only 1 other like us that's Curie all other business, personal or community witnesses basically have private owner(s) and subject to their needs first not a community vote based leadership operation}

my point is i actually do understand, let me merely try to explain that the ongoing function of additional few lines and the non-thread needed operation adds next to no cost to existing overhead

my apologize for using the word profit, that was insensitive, i think it's fair that such fundamental function and impactful feature that's easy to implement not be treated so carelessly as a immediate profit grab benefit (imagine if Steemit Inc suddenly go from changing 0% to 35% if someone Re-Steem a post right when that function came out a few months after launching a primitive steemit.com....how far do you think they will get today).....think bigger implement it as a marketing benefit for your company

think win-win, even short to mid-term, i ask you to consider my points as well, i was tired when i wrote all these, i'm still tired now. Bottom line is you lose nothing running this now....might as well get as much foothold as you can

look we can all forget this...and nobody want to use it with a stigma hanging over this.....and Steemians can stay modestly selfish or get worst.....or we get a little better due to development leader like yours, you can make a big change immediately early on, it's such a small and low hanging fruit but it could really make steem-bounty even as a separate web-based apps linking away from Steemit or Busy....if you agree i can point out to you some great way to monetize this via traffic return and not immediate cash harvest like greedy whales and self upvoters who put themselves and their coin stacking first and their own Steem wallets last, do it right for the best reasons, and the results that will get you the most user and maximum support

if anyone in Steem don't agree with what you are doing they will speak out and/or they will flag if they really disagree with your actions (which i did flag because you knowingly deceived the userbase by withholding information that you will take 65% of the Author's 75% reward and implying they will earn 100%). I'm not here to play the blame game, nor if one is better than another, I consider that the past because you owed up to it, and I think we all respect you for that, and so do i

You are right I should have been more upfront about this. We are still working on making this part work, via a VIP system. No excuse this should have been communicated clearly.

if you really are building so you can use it yourself then it's a far cry from your other statement that you want to withdraw all your Steem and quit, you have the freewill to overprice and over complicate you business to it's own detriment, and you can go around guilt tripping, but more senior Steemian who have been here longer have all done all the whining and complaining and we're numb almost numb to that (Most Dolphins and Minnows who have joined in the past year has lost way more than you have by percentage)

you have a choice, either wised up and start listening and take feedback stick to your 35% for none VIP overprice economics and slow down your own growth

i don't have to use or not use your service to speak out the impact and truth, think about this way, i know for a fact you are NOTE building this with end user in mind

for the record i never said you were scam as you insuited in your message accusing me, but i swallowed that character attack, now i will tell what exactly i felt

i felt like i was scammed when i used your feature, and i said that once and only once, but that i was just the feeling, and you know why?

Let me show why, and the obvious flaw in your plan:

You say you will only pay 65% from 75% of the author reward that's basically, .65x75%= 48.75%of the entire reward given the author

That means that there is 51.25% of Rewards left, and guess how much you left for the Curators....that's right 0%. You bot voted with my posting token within 60 seconds of creating your comment, that pratically burned up my entire 25% curation, and you share none of that 26.25% (that 35% author reward) with the Curator.

just recently the tabled issue is how we could get to change Steem's ecosystem by raising the Curator Reward to 50%.......You're doing the exact opposite, you have removed the Curator Reward to 0%.

now that's a justified feeling of being scammed.

for the record....i don't judge your as a scammer for your code, but the numbers show that it is a Poor Representation of the Steem ecosystem and as much as all people here need someone to be first to market we don't need any arrogance to be marketed as good Steem business or good Witnessing

i try to give you the benefit of the doubt and tred to show you some high level benefit of creating a more welcoming and fairer economics, and you didn't even want to listen, that's why nobody can't even tell you details benefits and better money making ideas, you probably won't listen

but if you really want to hide behind, the aged and worthless "don't use our service if you don't like what we are doing" then you sorely mistaken and inexperience in this line of business

less reputations and less trust is build buy telling people to go away, really doesn't help to tell investors to go away, and its especially double no-no to tell sincere curators (the most lacking and valued asset in the ecosystem today) to go away......you think you are telling me to go away, but everybody is reading what you're writing insecurely and defensively, i hope you are not hiding anything else

do i think you are raking it in Bounty, not yet, you just started this year or something, AND i have already shown you understanding and common ground on this topic, but since you stubbornly want to stick to that subject of your profits and wealth

Yes and Yeah you were surely raked it in when Steem was at the low of $0.09 and plateaued between $0.14 to $0.30 for months on end in late 2016 till after the 1st quarter of 2017. Those were the great months to get tens of thousands of Steem on the cheap, and yes, those were a great time to earn >60 Rep Author Rewards....like you did, don't deny it

Is your guilt projecting, i don't know, but you surely are in a stable and profitable position, so please don't try to act or pretend that you have not earn handsomely with your Rep 69 and other alts for over 2+ years

lets get back to my only point:

i moved from calling out that you hide facts and figures, and tired to shared that you will benefit more if you build your business by getting more constructive feedback.....and not just shoehorn it with flowing and glowing comments by the masses who are more interested in your 58K SP upvotes that giving you meaningful and monetizable information, but that's your choice, ignorance and ego are choices

look it's your final decision, but I Will continue to speak out against Authors Losing 35% due to overprice and overvaluation and NO, being 1st to market AND not making more in your other business is not a good reason......and for sure I will speak out against Curators getting 0%

AND please, ffs just fix your code before you release it again and deal loses to other while taking in profits from their upvotes, hell you can go add a timer delay bar or something fancy, don't care just do something.....right now between pressing upvote on bounty and your code executing, Upvoters/Curators/Users have zero control and there is next to zero delay.

Fix This:

Curators are getting 0% Curation By Force With S-Forever

i don't personally benefit by telling you this, you know that very well you need to fix your inconsiderate implementation, you can say it's just a bug, but money loss to users no matter how small it is to you, is still money loss by others that you do not have to bear

you can be as dismissive as much as you want to me, but you can't make any of us go away like I can't tell you and your business to go away, even though it's obvious you showed your hand and just proved to everyone that you faked wanting to quit

errr... I hope as a dev you know deleted comments are all still in the blockchain right?

I really don't want to copy the raw data and paste, or just use @drakos' tool to show the content of your removed messages here. But I hope you see that I'm sharing openly, honestly, and not to fcuk anyone but you also REALLY need to know that the Steem-Forever Dapp Needs To Be Shutdown Until You Fix The 0% Curation Rewards

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This isn't a jump on a band wagon endeavour here, i will come back to hold you accountable if nobody else (witness/whales or fish) does, it's because this is the right thing to do. As a fellow investor, and curator, I cannot stand by and watch a Dapp be released that jeopardizes the price of Steem by hiding the fees and charges and incurring losses. I hope you fix your issues and become successful. Every successful Dapp helps steem and all steem holders.