RE: I opened a protocol PR: scale DHF payouts when HBD printing is suppressed
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Do I want to rephrase it? No. You claim something I didn't say at all, and somehow think I should therefore rephrase what I actually said. Its a pretty aggressive argumentation tactic which I frankly resent. In short, its a dick move.
I don't agree there is any backdoor, so I disagree with your basic premise. Everything else falls apart in your argument at that point.
As far as I know, you are some kind of programmer, but you don't even seem to understand what a backdoor in software is. Here's the definition: Definitions: An undocumented way of gaining access to computer system.
The DHF was designed to function exactly as it does. It's been front and center that it functions this way from day one. You're making an argument that it should scale based on market size, but the fact that it doesn't doesn't make it some kind of backdoor.
There are of course limits on how much can be spent on the DHF. Per day, it's limited to 1/100 of the total accumulated supply in the DHF. And that accumulated supply can be "burnt" if stakeholders agree to it. And the rate at which funds accumulate are in fact tied to marketshare.
Beyond all the above, this is a stake-weighted voting system at its base. Any code-feasible protocol change could be enacted by stake-weighted voting. The DHF works on the same rules, the only difference is it doesn't require a hardfork to enact the change.
I am sorry if it sounds like that. I tried to make it clear that is how it sounds, not what it is, if I missed the mark I am sorry. You did not say that, I said it sounds like that to me and maybe to others. I asked to rephrase because it sounds bad, you wouldn't need to rephrase if it sounded and was bad. Anyways, sorry if it sounded like putting words in your mouth, I take misunderstanding like that serious.
You did not say "Strong people have a right others do not. They do not want their backdoor closed" I am the one who said that to a casual like me it sounds like that.
No one said it is a backdoor in software. It is a backdoor in governance baked into the governance.
Dismissing it as "not a backdoor" (let us call something else if you have a better name) because it is not a software exploit per se or because it is baked into the software is a disengagement I did not expect. The wording doesn't change the meaning but if you have a better word I can rephrase that.
Backdoors are everywhere, in laws that allow presidents to take and maintain power, in companies that can sue you if you use their product wrong, those are all backdoors in my view but we can use another word if you have it. Point is, it is still a backdoor (word subject to changing) even if everyone agrees, even if it is intentional and known, and even if no code exploit is needed.
Other than that we may agree to disagree that it is a flaw or not, if its important or if a fix should exist or not. Despite the disengagement due to the word I think I understand your position about the belief in the stake and the consensus.
Edit: typos and phrasings, I respect blocktrades too much to leave typos and ambiguity, even with an edit it may not be perfect phrasing
Right, to be clear: it doesn't fit any definition of backdoor I've ever heard and its to me it was used as a misplaced pejorative.
In your restatement, it sounds like you're saying that it is a special power reserved to the powerful (here powerful being the largest stakeholders).
But IMO the argument basically just collapses to "stakeholder weighted voting" is wrong, because as I pointed out already, much more powerful actions can be taken by stake-weighted voting than disbursement of the funds in the DHF, so it's hard to see how the DHF is some special case outside that reasoning.
There's certainly arguments for the idea that stake-weighted voting is wrong. But it is the core consensus idea behind Hive, so changing it now for Hive is the wrong idea, IMO.
Now perhaps it could be argued that many people have joined Hive without being aware of the stake weighted voting (e.g. people who posted articles and got rewards without actually buying any Hive) and thus stake-weighted voting is some secret power alloted to the wealthy. But given that the root of all such awarded value comes from stake-weighted voters, I think it is a bridge too far.
So if we've gotten beyond the pressurizing semantics, lets get to brass tacks: you're proposing a change in protocol and it would need to be implemented by someone and then voted in by stakeholders.
Instead of arguing for a protocol change, I think it makes more sense to campaign to voters to stop voting for more proposals if you think too much is being spent.
Based on current voting by stakeholders to fund some proposals still (not a lot, I might add), it seems unreasonable to expect that the majority of stakeweighting will be in favor of the protocol change, as they could easily cut spending by simply voting to cut spending without any code change at all, as I pointed out earlier.
But it's not impossible: maybe stakeholders vote on things they really don't want to, just to virtue signal, and thus would be happy to have a mechanism that forcibly prevents them from spending regardless. On a personal note, I don't fall in this category.
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If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
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Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
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I read it yesterday and sat on it overnight.
I almost agreed with you, but I think you are mixing different layers.
It does not collapse to "stake weighted voting is wrong"
No. If you want to collapse it to weighted voting, then it collapses to this: threshold based stake weighted treasury access creates two practical classes of users.
Everyone has stake weighted voting, not everyone can pass the DHF funding threshold. A small user can vote, comment, buy, post, and support the return proposal. A few large holders can lift proposals above that wall or drop them below that wall.
This is stake weighted control over liquid treasury payouts. Funding becomes a right reserved to either a small set of very large stakeholders or to a hardforking level of coordination among smaller stakeholders.
Whether the return proposal threshold should exist is another discussion because maybe the threshold has value and it exists for a reason. I am not trying to settle that here.
Why DHF is a special case
Because DHF turns governance influence into recurring liquid payouts.
Stake weighted voting is one thing. Stake weighted voting that approves liquid treasury payments above a threshold is another. Stake weighted threshold setting is yet another.
During normal conditions maybe all that is acceptable. During HBD stress when
hbd_print_rateis suppressed I think the treasury path should also obey the same stress signal."Campaign to voters" is technically true, but practically weak
That is already what I am doing.
Without support from a few very large holders approving a proposal requires enormous coordination. Your own vote can make or break major proposals and change the threshold. For ordinary users to match that, they need hardforking levels of social coordination.
So yes, "campaign to voters" is technically true. But in practice, the threshold and passing it is controlled by concentrated stake.
The proposal vote is only a signal
Because this is a protocol level change the core is not DHF proposal votes. The real question is whether witnesses, stakeholders, and the community think this rule should be part of a hardfork.
The proposal is useful as a signal and is useful for consensus IF powerful parties are willing to concede. It helps gauge whether the community wants this code idea discussed seriously. It also helps show witnesses how much support or rejection there is.
But to gauge it honestly you must look beyond the weighted votes. How many people are supporting? Are they reputable and active users? Are they community leaders? Are they witnesses at any rank?
If you do not look at that you are hiding behind the mask of weighted voting.
I do not want dissidence. I do not want to split the chain. But protocol changes are ultimately about code and witness signaling, not DHF proposal votes. In theory, a hardfork does not require the DHF threshold. It requires enough witnesses and enough community consensus around the code.
I would much rather gauge consensus than escalate anything, that is precisely why the proposal. That is why I opened the PR publicly, made the proposal, and am arguing the idea in the open.
But that requires reasonability to look beyond the weighted voting system because the weighted voting distorts is the wrong metric for hardfork changes like this.
Think about it. For illustrative purposes using numbers taken out of my ass:
If one holder with 100M HP approves while all the community rejects this should it be a change? Of course not.
If everyone approves it, gets 60M HP and a single vote puts the return proposal at 100M HP, should this change be rejected? No.
Do you know why? Of course you do, that is how Hive was born. You do not need the majority of the stake to reach consensus.
So please, look at the proposal beyond the stake weighted votes. Please browser the community and hear what people are worried about. Please address the worries and please look at Hive users and communities without the shield of stake weighted votes.
Brass tacks
My proposal is not "stake weighted voting is wrong".
hbd_print_ratealready exists and if it suppresses HBD elsewhere then treasury outflows should obey the same signal.To be clear. No relation to stake weighted voting. No relation to the return proposal. Those are absolutely worthy and related discussions, but they are other subjects.
And because this is a hardfork level idea, the signal is not only the weighted proposal vote. The real signal is also who supports it, which witnesses comment, which communities care, and whether users think this is a legitimate and change that should be applied. Lots of people commented and posted supporting, very few commented and posted opposing it and I appreciate your opposition because if more people agree with your opposition they should voice it since the DHF does not have downvoting.
Even when the protocol suppresses HBD under stress, above threshold stake approved DHF payouts should continue normally. That is the inconsistency I am asking Hive to fix.
As I explained elsewhere, if we adopted the same signal of hbd_print_rate as you suggest, it would be to change payments from HBD to Hive of equivalent value. That's what the hbd_print_rate does: it doesn't reduce payments for posts, it just changes the form of the payment. IMO that serves no useful function as it doesn't cut costs at all.
You're not actually proposing adopting the same signal: you're proposing an entirely new and different thing and trying to link it to an existing functionality to justify it.
I don't agree with your reasoning as to two classes of users, but I see no way we're going to come to an agreement on that issue, so lets just agree to disagree on that point. This sort of complaint will always exist in any stake-weighted system and the underlying reason for discontent in stake-weighted systems should be obvious to most people nowadays in a world where stake-weighting taken to an extreme may end up destroying the world.
On the "related" issue of consensus, sure consensus matters, and of course it is not one person versus everyone else when it comes to what sets value. But, practically speaking, it is the people who are willing to hold and/or buy the coin at any given price, versus those who just sell it that assigns a consensus value to any coin. It's not strictly a numbers game where you count the voters, the mechanism is more complex.
My bottom line is this: I don't think the proposed change will have any significant impact on the price of the coin. It might make a few people feel better, but will it cause them to drive up the price of the coin? I very much doubt it.
And if the concern is the amount of money being spent by the DHF, we can already see this is rapidly dwindling. Of the few proposals that are still funded, most are near renewal periods, and in the current environment it seems less than likely that most will be able to get funded again. So the whole proposal is chasing a goal that already appears to be naturally resolving (for better or worse, which remains to be seen), IMO.
Not backdoors, many of those examples are considered or defined as loopholes
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Everything is documented
So the choice is yours again leave me alone and bring my rep back and I will stop sharing the truth
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@jacobtothe @acidyo @themarkymark @hurtlocker and friends 😁 No one will ever trust you again you weirdo 😂
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive 😂 by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person 🧐
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop 🛑 and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth 🙏🏾
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So many pretend to be doing god's work but they are really working for the devil 👿
Karma will strike you and who ever supports you 🙏🏾
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To @jacobtothe and friends 😁
@crimsonclad please do your job 🙏🏾
https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz
https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x
https://hive.blog/dev/@howo/re-kgakakillerg-szhax7
https://hive.blog/hive/@steevc/follow-friday-respect
https://hive.blog/hive-127022/@shmoogleosukami/re-kgakakillerg-t0hcxc
It's unbelievable that they downvoted this Goodbye Auntie R.I.P 🙏🏾
Comments being downvoted by blocktrades https://hive.blog/hive-170744/@kgakakillerg/t0ns3b
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@steevc/re-blocktrades-t0kint
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@blocktrades/t0lq41
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-2025-06-29-20250629143829
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0m1vn
https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/t0rfo8
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0vcl7
Stop farming Hive https://hive.blog/burnpost/@buildawhale/re-1756307402814502169-20250827t151240z
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📊 The Untrending Report - Hive Downvote Analysis - 2025-09-07
RE: Understanding Pointers in C Programming
Please Peakd, allow me to completely block spammers (Would you ever vote for this?) thanks for exposing yourself more @makerhacks
Please go through it all instead of calling it spam 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
https://blurt.blog/hive/@candy49/5slvnx-taskmaster4450-is-being-downvoted-on-hive-by-you-know-who
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https://hive.blog/hive/@kgakakillerg/i-ve-been-put-on-two-blacklists
Thank you for reading and viewing this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop 🛑 and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth 🙏🏾
I'm sharing the truth I know it hurts you but it is what it is 😂🍻
It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars 🤔🧐 and a account to hold 24 million dollars 💰 crazy
To everyone who is turning a blind eye to the truth karma will strike you down 🙏🏾
Stop Doing the devils work do gods work 🙏🏾
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It's great to see you here @blocktrades, thanks for participating in the debate.
I would like to ask you two questions:
When the system asks you to update your witness votes every year (if you have been inactive), does it also do that for DHF votes?
If not, wouldn't it make sense to apply this measure there as well? There are very long-term proposals, and many accounts could become inactive without being aware of the risks regarding the HBD rate, yet their votes would still count toward those proposals.
The other question is whether you read the proposal for changing Hive's name, given the research indicating that our current name has been the strongest barrier to onboarding, and what are your thoughts on it?
Yes, it's a common expiration for all governance-related actions (witness votes, proxies, proposal votes).
I'm not really convinced that changing the name of Hive would affect anything right now. I think the main issues are a general downturn in crypto (money flowing out of crypto into AI) and Hive's specific issue is more tied to easy onboarding of new users (in particular, we need to make it easy to do simple social-based login for new users).
I did read the analysis about finding Hive being a problem, but I think if onboarding were easier, there would be less problem as you could just onboard people "on-the-spot".
There could be something to changing the name to make it easier to find, but I think this could be a pretty expensive change to make now.
What do you think should be done to make onboarding easier? Are there works being done on it currently?
The most useful thing I can think of is to add support for "lite accounts" along with associated functionality for "social account" login (e.g. google and facebook style login). More details on the idea are here: https://gitlab.syncad.com/hive/haf/-/issues/214
This would allow for new users to join using their existing social accounts and create a small number of posts. Later if they start to earn funds, they can create keys to guard those funds and potentially convert their lite account to a full Hive account. This would eliminate the initial friction for people who just want to join the community but don't want to deal with the crypto compelexities at the start.
We started working on this a while ago, but got sidetracked by other issues and we recently just returned to it. It along with improvements to wax (library for Hive apps) and workerbee (another library for building Hive apps that builds on top of wax) are our main focus at the moment.
Yes, love the idea. I always wondered why we didn't have any social login yet. I've tried to onboard atleast 7 people by now on HIVE, and they either give up at initial phases or after few days because of the learning curve.
Thank you.
I understand that this would be a significant expense right now. It shouldn't just be a name change, but a full-scale rebranding, including a streamlined onboarding process, as well as a clear strategy for attracting capital.